We speak to Bill Lucas, Professor of Learning and Director of the Centre for Real-World Learning at the University of Winchester, about creativity, tenacity, resilience, character education, and how to get students to love learning. Lucas is one of the world’s experts on teaching and assessing creativity in schools and the author of over forty books on education.

This interview follows Lucas' talk, 'Creativity, curiosity and character in schools’, also available on the podcast.

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